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Okay.
So the first reason you might be convinced

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is coming in the next five years is
that a lot of existing people in the space

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believe this.
And I think some of them actually

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genuinely believe this. Like, this
is not entirely just hype or

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marketing.

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In between 5 and 20 years from now,
there's a good chance, a

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50% chance, we'll get AI smarter than us.

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Oh, yeah. Yes. In fact,
I have reduced my expectations for

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when we will get to AGI or whatever, human

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level. Uh,
I used to think it would be 5 to 20

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years, and now I think it could be,
you know, 2 to 10 years.

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And so as a result of that, I, I...
You can find it on my blog

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from about 2009, I think
is the first time I publicly talked about

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I predicted a 50% chance of, um, AGI by

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2028.

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How did-

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I still, I still believe that today.

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But still, if you,
if you extrapolate this kind of progress,

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very different place

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in 5 years, let alone 10 years.

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... has been added. If you just kind of,
like, eyeball the rate at which these

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capabilities are increasing,
it does make you think that we'll

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get there by 2026 or 2027.

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In the essay,
you actually say a really big

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thing, which is ASI, superintelligence, is

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actually thousands of days away.

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Maybe. I mean, that's our hope, our guess.

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Yeah.

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Like, I think,
I think we're quite close to digital

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superintelligence. It, it may

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happen this year, and
if it doesn't happen this year, next year

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for sure.

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The second reason you might be convinced,
uh,

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is just by trying the models yourself.

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Like, instead of trusting what, you know,
other people say about the various AI

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models, try the models yourself.
And don't just try, you know,

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one AI model. Try at least two or three.

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Try the model, you know, 2019,
try a model from 2022, try a

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model from 2025. And then once you have,
like, at least two or three data points

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from, you know,
three different time periods,

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then you can use that to, you know,
extrapolate, you know,

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next. Uh, I think a common issue

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is that a lot of people who
are using AI have only been using it since

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2023 or 2024.
That simply does not give you enough data

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about the past.

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Like,
AI has been a thing since at least 2019.

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Uh,
transformers in particular have been a

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2019.

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The third reason you might be convinced
is more of a speculative

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argument.
There isn't a lot of actual data backing

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something I believe. Uh, so today's, uh,
AI

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models can do tasks
that can be done quickly.

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Like, if you can do a task that will take,
you know, one minute or 10 minutes, you

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know, the AI can do it for you.
If you want to do a task

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know, one hour of your time
and lots of failed attempts, you know,

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probably not do it for you. Uh, however,
the tasks

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which it can do,
those it can do way faster than you.

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Like, if it will take, you know,
10 minutes, the AI will do it in,

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seconds. Uh, AIs operate, at least as

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of today, between 10 to, you know,
100 times the speed at which you're

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operating.

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Also, the time horizon of the tasks

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is increasing. So, you know,
AI six months ago could do tasks

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that were

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maybe one minute long,
and the AI today can do tasks that are,

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long. There is a trend that
is increasing in that direction.

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The technical reason behind this is, uh,
increasing

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compute being given to reinforcement
learning on top of transformers,

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and that's something I'll get to later,
but this is a specific technical reason

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this is happening. Uh,
my view of intelligence, at

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least

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to some extent, is
that you get better at a thing

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by doing it a lot of times. You know,
you get better at giving speeches by

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lot of speeches.
You get better at writing code by writing

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code. You get better

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at, you know,
producing movies by producing lots of

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And if you can run faster,
you can run more

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iterations. Uh, all scientific discovery,
in my

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view, works like this. Uh, every lab

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experiment you run
is yet another iteration

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system. You know,
it could be microscopes

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biology. It could be, uh, you know,

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telescopes that help you study stars.

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It could be any field. And
if you can run more iterations,

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you can make progress faster. Uh,
there are some people who

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think that the amount of AI-driven
scientific progress

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we can get is limited because...The
physical world

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is slow. You know, labs are slow. Labs
are expensive.

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Running experiments takes time,
and this is

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true. However, A, there
are domains where the

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labs are cheap. Uh,

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learning how to get good speeches
is very cheap.

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Learning how to get good at math
and software is cheap.

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Uh, like, it does not cost a lot of money,
and I

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think that is partly why we have gotten a
lot of good

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capabilities from reinforcement learning
in math and software.

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Like, AI is extremely good at math
and software in particular as of

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2025.

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I think this also carries over to other
fields of scientific discovery.

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Maybe the speed up is not that much,
but there will be a

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speed up. Uh,

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you can still get super intelligence this
way.

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If, you know,
humanity would otherwise have taken,

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know, invent a certain technology,
if AI can do

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that in ten years, that
is still super intelligence.

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Like, imagine if you
were sitting in 1800 and you could get

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entire 1800 to 1900, you know,
technological inventions to you in

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ten years. Or imagine you were in 1900,
you know,

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before World War I, you know,
people used sticks and stones to literally

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fight,
and by the end of the century people used,

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and, you know, space satellites

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and, uh, bomber planes and so

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on.

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If you can speed that up,
you can compress the amount of time

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requires to

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invent things,
that gets you super intelligence, and

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third reason.

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The fourth reason I believe we might get
super intelligence in the next

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five years is, uh, model scaling. This
is a

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well-known trend among machine learning
researchers.

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However, if you are not very in the space,
you may not be aware of it.

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Uh,
most of the AI progress in the last six

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2025 has been driven by one trend
and one trend only,

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which is you take a transformer,
you give it more data, more

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computation,
and it will produce better results.

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People don't know how this happens,
but this happens.

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This predictability repeatedly happens.

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Uh, the two ingredients are compute
and data.

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Uh,
data is just the entire internet's data

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the model. Compute
is just more computers that people have

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purchased. Uh,
there's a special type of computer used.

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They're called graphics processing units.

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They are good at this operation of matrix
multiplication in

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particular.
But basically it's just more computers.

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We have gone from

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spending, you know, like,

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$100,000,
which could be literally just one machine

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person's room, you know, $100 billion

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worth of compute to train a single AI
model that is, you know, an

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entire data center spanning, you know,
thousands of

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acres. This scale up in, you know,

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six orders of magnitude has just been
driven because every

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time we notice we use more compute
and more data, we get more AI

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performance.
We can now even predict this up to three

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decimal places. There
is a law called the Chinchilla Scaling

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Law, uh, I'll put
that on the screen right now,

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where N is the number of parameters,
like how big the model

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is,
and D is how much compute we give to it.

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Assume

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we s-
show the model every token in the data

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exactly once,
this L gives you the training loss.

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This is a proxy for how good the model

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performs. There is one important

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nitpick here that's really important,
which is that the training

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loss correlates with your actual
performance that you care about,

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but it is not the performance itself.

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It is possible for training loss to reduce
and for capabilities to not increase

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that much.
It is possible for training loss to reduce

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capabilities to increase a lot.
Predicting this

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relationship is hard between training loss
and capabilities,

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but there is a relationship.
More training loss does mean more

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capabilities.
Most AI researchers across the field have

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failed to predict exactly what training
loss leads to exactly

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what capabilities. There
are few people who have predicted it,

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and these people are, for example,
Ilya Sutskever at OpenAI was very

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bullish on this, and he predicts,
you know, we will get

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super intelligence in the next five to ten
years.

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People who have actually believed in this
law have generally predicted that AI will

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come sooner than what most other people in
the field

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predict.

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Uh,
we still have at least two orders of

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up left. Uh, we have spent, like I said,
you know, $10 billion has

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already been spent and the next set of ra-
data centers we're making are being

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made so that we spend $100 billion on the
training of a single

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model. We might scale
that up another order of magnitude,

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trillion dollars on a single model.

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It seems likely we will not go beyond a
trillion dollars on a single model

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unless we get, you know,
really exceptional capabilities.

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This alone means, you know,
two more orders of magnitude from 10

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trillion,

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which you can compare to, you know,
the six orders of magnitude they have

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gone through. There
are some people who say, you know,

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model, which was GPT-4.5 was not that

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impressive, meaning, you know,
this law might be weakening and that

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might be true,
but just remember we still have two more

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The fifth reason you might be convinced
super intelligence might be coming in the

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next five years is reinforcement learning
scaling.

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Reinforcement learning
is an old technique in machine learning.

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However,
it has been applied to transformers in

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Literally only one year ago we figured out
how

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to apply reinforcement learning on a
transformer to get

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even more capabilities.Uh, reinforcement

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learning allows the model to try
something, fail, try something, fail,

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try again,
and actually gets the correct answer.

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Uh,
this is different from the base model

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know, cached answer which it gives out.

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Reinforcement learning allows us to spend
more compute on a single

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task, uh,
whereas earlier it could just give the

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answer for the task. There are multiple,
you

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know,
tasks which people consider difficult

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would never crack, you know,
as of 2023 and

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2024. Uh, researchers said that

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certain benchmarks would not be cracked.

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People said, you know,

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Humanities Last Exam would not be cracked.

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People said, you know,
ARC AGI would not be cracked.

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People said, you know,
mathematics would not be cracked.

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All three of these have been cracked.

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Uh,
Humanities Last Exam consists of lot of

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answers by PhDs in various fields of both
science

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and social science. This includes biology,
chemistry,

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archeology, uh, journalism, law and so on.

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Uh, all these PhDs agreed that, you know,
if these questions get

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cracked, that means the model
is as good as a PhD in those fields,

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seeing AI has already solved, like,
almost half of that data

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set.

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We have started seeing a loss to predict,
you

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know,

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how much computation leads to how much
performance,

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like we had with model scaling where we
have a very clear empirical law which

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gives you up to three decimal places
accuracy predictions.

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Uh,
we do not have as accurate predictions for

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scaling of reinforcement learning,
because it is relatively new.

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We have less data points,
we have tried this for less longer.

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However,
people are already starting to make some

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are starting to see that

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every time we increase the compute by,
you know, 10x, we get a

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little bit of improvement. So
if you spend, you know, $10 per task,

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spend $100, then you spend $1000 a task,
you get little improvement, little

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improvement, little improvement.

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We have gone all the way,
at least as per public data of OpenAI,

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the way up to $500,000 per task,
and we also know

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that, uh, AI has been able to get,
you know, the gold

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medal on the International Mathematics
Olympiad, which is like top olympiad

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for mathematics worldwide.
We still have many,

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many,
many more orders of magnitude to go from,

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$100,000, and in theory what we can spend

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is,
which is at least a billion dollars per

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Like, if you were really solving,
you know, novel physics,

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know, novel chemistry, if you were,
you know, trying to solve something like

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cancer or trying to, you know,
solve math theorems that have, you know,

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unsolved for, you know, the past century,
like, why would you not spend a billion

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dollars on those tasks?
So we have many more orders

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of magnitude to go here.
We have a lot more compute we

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this,
and we don't know how far this law scales,

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find out very soon.

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The sixth and final reason you might be
convinced superintelligence might be

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by 2030 is that reinforcement learning has
worked

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before. Like I said, this
is a not new technique.

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We are applying it to transformers newly
because transformers can, you know,

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understand English
and generalize across so many,

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tasks. Whereas earlier,
before transformers, we had, you know,

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doing specific things. Even
when we just had narrow models doing

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specific things,
like we had just one model

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we knew that reinforcement learning
actually works pretty well.

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Uh, we have, uh, an AI model that is,
you know, the world

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champion in chess
that knows nothing about chess.

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Like, no chess experts had to tell
that model how to get good at chess

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the best at chess. Uh, this
is obviously by DeepMind.

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This is, uh, AlphaZero. We

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also have DeepMind's model
that beat the best

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Go player in the world. This happened,
again, before transformers were even

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invented. Like, this is very old news,
but we have gotten

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superhuman performance in narrow domains.

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You know, poker has been solved.
Dota has been solved.

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StarCraft has been solved. People,
AI researchers moved on from

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games because they found them too easy,
they found it too easy to make an AI that

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would just completely obliterate all the
human players in a

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game. And that is why we
are now working with general

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domains.
So we know point number A on narrow

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domains,
reinforcement learning gets superhuman

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Point number B,
transformers can work on general domains.

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Point number C,
reinforcement learning plus transformers

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domains actually works. Point number D,
this thing scales up.

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Point number E, we are going to scale it

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up.

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